Comments on: In The Beginning… http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/ There Is No 'You' In Quivering ... Thu, 17 May 2012 00:53:03 +0000 hourly 1 By: Linena http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Linena Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:04:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-27 I am so glad to see that you broke free! The Quiverfull movement has claimed my best friend, and I miss her dearly (her husband will not allow her to see me). More people need to know about the dangers of this movement. <br/><br/>It's great to see that there are people out there who can break free. Thank you very much for sharing your story. I am so glad to see that you broke free! The Quiverfull movement has claimed my best friend, and I miss her dearly (her husband will not allow her to see me). More people need to know about the dangers of this movement.

It’s great to see that there are people out there who can break free. Thank you very much for sharing your story.

]]> By: Gwytherinn http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Gwytherinn Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:21:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-26 "It wasn't until later that I learned that if I messed up and died while in a state of sinning...I would lose my salvation!"<br/><br/>Having been brought up in an evangelical Christian environment, these were things I worried about as a kid. I was convinced I would never be good enough to go to heaven and I once asked one of my teachers about this - would I go to heaven if I died suddenly but hadn't been able to repent for all my sins?? I got the same answer - as a 7 year old it terrified me! As I got older it just became absurd. If I lived a life where I did my best to be a good person, how could I be sentenced to hell because I didn't get the OPPORTUNITY to repent for a few sins before death?<br/><br/>It took me a long time to work through all the baggage of my religious upbringing (still am in some ways), I can't even imagine what it must be like for you and Vyckie! Thanks for sharing your story here, you are both incredibly brave!! “It wasn’t until later that I learned that if I messed up and died while in a state of sinning…I would lose my salvation!”

Having been brought up in an evangelical Christian environment, these were things I worried about as a kid. I was convinced I would never be good enough to go to heaven and I once asked one of my teachers about this – would I go to heaven if I died suddenly but hadn’t been able to repent for all my sins?? I got the same answer – as a 7 year old it terrified me! As I got older it just became absurd. If I lived a life where I did my best to be a good person, how could I be sentenced to hell because I didn’t get the OPPORTUNITY to repent for a few sins before death?

It took me a long time to work through all the baggage of my religious upbringing (still am in some ways), I can’t even imagine what it must be like for you and Vyckie! Thanks for sharing your story here, you are both incredibly brave!!

]]> By: Volly http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Volly Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:47:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-25 I have always felt that Andrea Yates was the canary in the coal mine for victims of patriarchy. Her situation sounds just like that of Susanne's daughter's friend. <br/><br/>You two are so lucky and smart to have gotten away. I have always felt that Andrea Yates was the canary in the coal mine for victims of patriarchy. Her situation sounds just like that of Susanne’s daughter’s friend.

You two are so lucky and smart to have gotten away.

]]> By: Walter http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Walter Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:33:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-24 Vicky & Laurie,<br/>congratulations, you escaped a cult and the scary camp fire tales of some bronze age middle eastern tribe of goat herders..<br/>Welcome to the real world.<br/>The book is a good idea; you're both very good writers.<br/>Laurie, your childhood fear of death was likely instilled by the religous concept that there is something after death. Then religions turn around and sell you the antidote.<br/>As someone who doesn't believe in gods or an afterlife, I feel no reason to be afraid of death, though maybe the process of dying painfully. Once dead we've forgotten ourselves. It must be like before we were born. No problem.<br/>Enjoy your one life,<br/>Walter Vicky & Laurie,
congratulations, you escaped a cult and the scary camp fire tales of some bronze age middle eastern tribe of goat herders..
Welcome to the real world.
The book is a good idea; you're both very good writers.
Laurie, your childhood fear of death was likely instilled by the religous concept that there is something after death. Then religions turn around and sell you the antidote.
As someone who doesn't believe in gods or an afterlife, I feel no reason to be afraid of death, though maybe the process of dying painfully. Once dead we've forgotten ourselves. It must be like before we were born. No problem.
Enjoy your one life,
Walter

]]> By: Susanne http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Susanne Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:09:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-23 I can only imagine how happy your Moms are to see you break free of a horrible, abusive life. My daughter joined an extreme Christian church when she was 14 and after she saw what a sham the life was for women she is now an athiest too. One of the girls from my daughter's church group now has 7 children (she is 27 years old), home schools them all, lives in an old church with only wood heat and one bathroom, and her husband is the youth pastor. I can only imagine how happy your Moms are to see you break free of a horrible, abusive life. My daughter joined an extreme Christian church when she was 14 and after she saw what a sham the life was for women she is now an athiest too. One of the girls from my daughter’s church group now has 7 children (she is 27 years old), home schools them all, lives in an old church with only wood heat and one bathroom, and her husband is the youth pastor.

]]> By: BeadKnitter http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-22 BeadKnitter Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-22 I think the majority of the religious believe because of fear. I'm so glad I've found your blog. I was raised in an extremist christian religious cult myself. I left it at the ate of 36. It was the most difficult time of my life. I still struggle with it 14 years later. I think by reading your blog it will help me with my struggle, and maybe, on occasion I can leave a comment that might help you in yours too. I think the majority of the religious believe because of fear. I’m so glad I’ve found your blog. I was raised in an extremist christian religious cult myself. I left it at the ate of 36. It was the most difficult time of my life. I still struggle with it 14 years later. I think by reading your blog it will help me with my struggle, and maybe, on occasion I can leave a comment that might help you in yours too.

]]> By: Anonymous http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Anonymous Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:19:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-21 What a brave woman, and a good mother!!<br/><br/>Fundies scare the hell out of me. The cult like atmosphere of their worshiping is always contrasted with their un-christian tolerance. I think funfamentalism was invented for the cruel and inhumane to get away with the most evil in this world. The fact that they are proliferating scares the hell out of me too. What a brave woman, and a good mother!!

Fundies scare the hell out of me. The cult like atmosphere of their worshiping is always contrasted with their un-christian tolerance. I think funfamentalism was invented for the cruel and inhumane to get away with the most evil in this world. The fact that they are proliferating scares the hell out of me too.

]]> By: Annie http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Annie Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:52:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-20 How weird that you could accept this story of salvation and heaven without really questioning it, especially given your background. It confirms my suspicion that many Xians simply believe because they WANT to. Because the alternative terrifies them. How weird that you could accept this story of salvation and heaven without really questioning it, especially given your background. It confirms my suspicion that many Xians simply believe because they WANT to. Because the alternative terrifies them.

]]> By: Lynn Latta http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Lynn Latta Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:20:00 +0000 http://www.nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/10/in-the-beginning/#comment-19 Great Article on Salon. I respect your courage and ability to take care of yourself under tough circumstances. <br/>It seems you have created a great support system for yourself and others who need it. Great Article on Salon. I respect your courage and ability to take care of yourself under tough circumstances.
It seems you have created a great support system for yourself and others who need it.

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