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	<title>Comments on: Babies, nursing and farming&#8230;Oh My&#8230;.</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/03/14/babies-nursing-and-farming-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you so down on Susanns?  She asked a very good question, one I have been wondering about myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you so down on Susanns?  She asked a very good question, one I have been wondering about myself.</p>
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		<title>By: sandradodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandradodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone hit on Susanne&#039;s profile?  She calls herself a perfectionist, seems she missed the mark today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone hit on Susanne&#8217;s profile?  She calls herself a perfectionist, seems she missed the mark today.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christy - please keep thinking, you obviously need to do a lot more of it. The &quot;quiet hard working country life filled with babies&quot; isn&#039;t really the point, and whatever path someone chooses, it does not mean their human rights deserve to be violated in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy &#8211; please keep thinking, you obviously need to do a lot more of it. The &#8220;quiet hard working country life filled with babies&#8221; isn&#8217;t really the point, and whatever path someone chooses, it does not mean their human rights deserve to be violated in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt my comments will get posted since you have comment moderation on and are likely too cowardly to post anything against your agenda.  However I may be wrong and there is more to you than two winy immature people bad mouthing what sounds to me as not all that bad of a life, if you chose it for yourself.  Remember that you married your first Husband (Dale?).   No one forced you into it. Some of us want to have a quiet hard working country life filled with babies.   Some of us don&#039;t.  Don&#039;t rag on them like you say they rag on you.  You two are just as judgmental as the Fundamentalist Christians! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thinking,&lt;br/&gt;Christy Bretsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt my comments will get posted since you have comment moderation on and are likely too cowardly to post anything against your agenda.  However I may be wrong and there is more to you than two winy immature people bad mouthing what sounds to me as not all that bad of a life, if you chose it for yourself.  Remember that you married your first Husband (Dale?).   No one forced you into it. Some of us want to have a quiet hard working country life filled with babies.   Some of us don&#8217;t.  Don&#8217;t rag on them like you say they rag on you.  You two are just as judgmental as the Fundamentalist Christians! </p>
<p>Thinking,<br />Christy Bretsh</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let veiled threats or anything else keep you from telling your stories... it&#039;s funny but these stories are familiar to me, not from being a Christian, but from being a Muslim.  I know so many women in the same position, in voluntary poverty thanks to their husbands, in houses in disrepair, with children they can&#039;t cope with, alienating their families, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let veiled threats or anything else keep you from telling your stories&#8230; it&#8217;s funny but these stories are familiar to me, not from being a Christian, but from being a Muslim.  I know so many women in the same position, in voluntary poverty thanks to their husbands, in houses in disrepair, with children they can&#8217;t cope with, alienating their families, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: denelian</title>
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		<dc:creator>denelian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just found your blog (via feministe)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i can&#039;t have kids at all. everyone thinks that i suffer from sour grapes because i also don&#039;t WANT kids. i am very physically disabled - and being a mom is HARD HARD HARD (i raised my youngest sister, so i do know whereof i speak :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;you both went through what i would consider Hell. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;if you need another friend (and don&#039;t mind a friend who calls God &quot;Her&quot; - God being all powerful, God can be female if She wants) please look me up. i don&#039;t know that i can be a lot of help, but i have shoulders, and they are good for leaning on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gods bless you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just found your blog (via feministe)</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t have kids at all. everyone thinks that i suffer from sour grapes because i also don&#8217;t WANT kids. i am very physically disabled &#8211; and being a mom is HARD HARD HARD (i raised my youngest sister, so i do know whereof i speak <img src='http://nolongerquivering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>you both went through what i would consider Hell. </p>
<p>if you need another friend (and don&#8217;t mind a friend who calls God &#8220;Her&#8221; &#8211; God being all powerful, God can be female if She wants) please look me up. i don&#8217;t know that i can be a lot of help, but i have shoulders, and they are good for leaning on.</p>
<p>Gods bless you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Charis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((((((((Laura)))))))),&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;made me cry to read it...&lt;br/&gt;in part, because it sounds way WAY too &quot;familiar&quot;, and Susanne, I would have lost custody of our 8 children to my abuser too too because I was so &lt;b&gt;hurt and angry&lt;/b&gt; over the years of abuse and neglect...  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He was an &quot;emotion free zone&quot; while I looked like  raging maniac.  I hit bottom with the heat deprivation- when my 18 month old had to have 6 rounds of antibiotics in a row and &quot;failure to thrive&quot;...  The selfish bedroom behavior, the various manifestations of abusiveness toward the children...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m still with the same husband, he is a much better man nowadays. (&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://hupotasso.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/seeing-progress/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seeing Progress&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>((((((((Laura)))))))),</p>
<p>made me cry to read it&#8230;<br />in part, because it sounds way WAY too &#8220;familiar&#8221;, and Susanne, I would have lost custody of our 8 children to my abuser too too because I was so <b>hurt and angry</b> over the years of abuse and neglect&#8230;  </p>
<p>He was an &#8220;emotion free zone&#8221; while I looked like  raging maniac.  I hit bottom with the heat deprivation- when my 18 month old had to have 6 rounds of antibiotics in a row and &#8220;failure to thrive&#8221;&#8230;  The selfish bedroom behavior, the various manifestations of abusiveness toward the children&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still with the same husband, he is a much better man nowadays. (<a HREF="http://hupotasso.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/seeing-progress/" REL="nofollow">Seeing Progress</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura and Vykie,&lt;br/&gt;My heart goes out to you. I know women caught in the vortex of despair. I also know couples who have together lovingly raised healthy large families. It is devistating to realize that not only have we submitted, but we have subjected our children, to disrespect, control and abuse. Breaking free is hugely difficult and disorienting. I commend you on your extraordinary progress.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Having read many of the authors mentioned here and lived the homeschool community for almost 20 years, I can imagine the disillusionment of having trusted another who led us wrong. I have done this too. Recognize though, that the evil here is man, not God. The responsibility of us all is to weigh and discern what we read and what we believe. When I broke away from our church I read prolifically from many sources. My hunger for understanding was insatiable. Having read all these authors, listened to the speakers, sat in the teaching we must discard the obvious error, separate the chaff from the wheat and pray to God for wisdom, discernment and direction. Please stay open to the existence of God. You and your children need the stability of truth not the chaos of rounds. Angel&#039;s poem is so succinct. Her fear is tangible. It takes time to regroup and I hope you continue to write. Writing has helped me to process, understand and begin again. Love to you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura and Vykie,<br />My heart goes out to you. I know women caught in the vortex of despair. I also know couples who have together lovingly raised healthy large families. It is devistating to realize that not only have we submitted, but we have subjected our children, to disrespect, control and abuse. Breaking free is hugely difficult and disorienting. I commend you on your extraordinary progress.</p>
<p>Having read many of the authors mentioned here and lived the homeschool community for almost 20 years, I can imagine the disillusionment of having trusted another who led us wrong. I have done this too. Recognize though, that the evil here is man, not God. The responsibility of us all is to weigh and discern what we read and what we believe. When I broke away from our church I read prolifically from many sources. My hunger for understanding was insatiable. Having read all these authors, listened to the speakers, sat in the teaching we must discard the obvious error, separate the chaff from the wheat and pray to God for wisdom, discernment and direction. Please stay open to the existence of God. You and your children need the stability of truth not the chaos of rounds. Angel&#8217;s poem is so succinct. Her fear is tangible. It takes time to regroup and I hope you continue to write. Writing has helped me to process, understand and begin again. Love to you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found your blog. I hope you do get that book written -- the two of you have an amazing story to tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found your blog. I hope you do get that book written &#8212; the two of you have an amazing story to tell.</p>
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		<title>By: gsilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>gsilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a story!  I am fascinated and inspired by what you went through - and I am sure I am not the only one!  Write that book!</description>
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