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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as your good friend in the church and some of mine for that matter.  They often cannot advise you well because that would mean they had to deal with their own live honestly.  I suppose it is the same in or out of the church to be fair, none of us want to look at ourselves.  I would bet 50 bucks she had intimacy problems of her own, otherwise she would have said she would have her husband talk to yours.  Youngest chick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as your good friend in the church and some of mine for that matter.  They often cannot advise you well because that would mean they had to deal with their own live honestly.  I suppose it is the same in or out of the church to be fair, none of us want to look at ourselves.  I would bet 50 bucks she had intimacy problems of her own, otherwise she would have said she would have her husband talk to yours.  Youngest chick</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1515</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as your good friend in the church and some of mine for that matter.  They often cannot advise you well because that would mean they had to deal with their own live honestly.  I suppose it is the same in or out of the church to be fair, none of us want to look at ourselves.  I would bet 50 bucks she had intimacy problems of her own, otherwise she would have said she would have her husband talk to yours.  Youngest chick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as your good friend in the church and some of mine for that matter.  They often cannot advise you well because that would mean they had to deal with their own live honestly.  I suppose it is the same in or out of the church to be fair, none of us want to look at ourselves.  I would bet 50 bucks she had intimacy problems of her own, otherwise she would have said she would have her husband talk to yours.  Youngest chick</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynic - Thanks for the info.  I&#039;ll look into it.  I&#039;m always ready to learn new things and new prespectives!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cecilia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynic &#8211; Thanks for the info.  I&#8217;ll look into it.  I&#8217;m always ready to learn new things and new prespectives!</p>
<p>Cecilia</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1514</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynic - Thanks for the info.  I&#039;ll look into it.  I&#039;m always ready to learn new things and new prespectives!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cecilia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynic &#8211; Thanks for the info.  I&#8217;ll look into it.  I&#8217;m always ready to learn new things and new prespectives!</p>
<p>Cecilia</p>
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		<title>By: The Cynic Sage</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cynic Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Biblical Counseling movement, founded by Jay Adams, is pretty sleazy IMO (I reccomend checking out &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://againstbiblicalcounseling.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog&lt;/a&gt; for more info). I put it on a simmilar level as the counseling offered by the church of Scientology (in that it&#039;s primary goal is controlling others rather than helping them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Biblical Counseling movement, founded by Jay Adams, is pretty sleazy IMO (I reccomend checking out <a HREF="http://againstbiblicalcounseling.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">this blog</a> for more info). I put it on a simmilar level as the counseling offered by the church of Scientology (in that it&#8217;s primary goal is controlling others rather than helping them).</p>
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		<title>By: The Cynic Sage</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cynic Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Biblical Counseling movement, founded by Jay Adams, is pretty sleazy IMO (I reccomend checking out &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://againstbiblicalcounseling.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog&lt;/a&gt; for more info). I put it on a simmilar level as the counseling offered by the church of Scientology (in that it&#039;s primary goal is controlling others rather than helping them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Biblical Counseling movement, founded by Jay Adams, is pretty sleazy IMO (I reccomend checking out <a HREF="http://againstbiblicalcounseling.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">this blog</a> for more info). I put it on a simmilar level as the counseling offered by the church of Scientology (in that it&#8217;s primary goal is controlling others rather than helping them).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently a psych grad student and a social worker on the side.  I love to hear stories like this.  I am myself not religious but I fully endorse people seeking out pastoral counseling.  At times I do worry about the bias but overall a properly trained pastor can be a terrific way for isolated people and people weary of the mental health system to get help.  Whenever someone tells me that counseling is not for them I always ask them to seek out pastoral counseling and often time people do!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cecilia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently a psych grad student and a social worker on the side.  I love to hear stories like this.  I am myself not religious but I fully endorse people seeking out pastoral counseling.  At times I do worry about the bias but overall a properly trained pastor can be a terrific way for isolated people and people weary of the mental health system to get help.  Whenever someone tells me that counseling is not for them I always ask them to seek out pastoral counseling and often time people do!</p>
<p>Cecilia</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently a psych grad student and a social worker on the side.  I love to hear stories like this.  I am myself not religious but I fully endorse people seeking out pastoral counseling.  At times I do worry about the bias but overall a properly trained pastor can be a terrific way for isolated people and people weary of the mental health system to get help.  Whenever someone tells me that counseling is not for them I always ask them to seek out pastoral counseling and often time people do!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cecilia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently a psych grad student and a social worker on the side.  I love to hear stories like this.  I am myself not religious but I fully endorse people seeking out pastoral counseling.  At times I do worry about the bias but overall a properly trained pastor can be a terrific way for isolated people and people weary of the mental health system to get help.  Whenever someone tells me that counseling is not for them I always ask them to seek out pastoral counseling and often time people do!</p>
<p>Cecilia</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you were seeking help at this point. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe that forgiveness is a two sided thing. Anger and bitterness tear the person up doing it far more than the one who is the recipient (and often unknowing they are even the problem.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Had your husband ever asked for forgiveness for anything?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m intrigued.  I&#039;m amazed by your willingess to be touched intimately by someone that you held so much against. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, if anyone is superwoman...someone with 11 kids without a supportive husband must fall into that category! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(BTW, what did he do for a living?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you were seeking help at this point. </p>
<p>I believe that forgiveness is a two sided thing. Anger and bitterness tear the person up doing it far more than the one who is the recipient (and often unknowing they are even the problem.)</p>
<p>Had your husband ever asked for forgiveness for anything?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m intrigued.  I&#8217;m amazed by your willingess to be touched intimately by someone that you held so much against. </p>
<p>And, if anyone is superwoman&#8230;someone with 11 kids without a supportive husband must fall into that category! </p>
<p>(BTW, what did he do for a living?)</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2009/04/06/tom-and-glenn-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>Susanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May the Goddesses of Love and Light and Beauty bless and guide you, and make you whole in all ways. You are beautiful.  Hugs....Susanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May the Goddesses of Love and Light and Beauty bless and guide you, and make you whole in all ways. You are beautiful.  Hugs&#8230;.Susanne</p>
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