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		<title>By: Vyckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vyckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to &quot;anonymous&quot; who submitted a comment this morning ~ please follow the link in the above post where this thread is being continued.  We have closed comments to this thread here on the blog ~ but would love to hear from you over at the NLQ forums.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to &#8220;anonymous&#8221; who submitted a comment this morning ~ please follow the link in the above post where this thread is being continued.  We have closed comments to this thread here on the blog ~ but would love to hear from you over at the NLQ forums.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Vyckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vyckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion for this post has been moved over to our new NLQ forums: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://nolongerquivering.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sleep&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nolongerquivering.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sleep&lt;/a&gt;No further comments on this post will be accepted here ~ please go to the forums. Thank you ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion for this post has been moved over to our new NLQ forums: <a HREF="http://nolongerquivering.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sleep" REL="nofollow">http://nolongerquivering.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sleep</a>No further comments on this post will be accepted here ~ please go to the forums. Thank you <img src='http://nolongerquivering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous asked about home made formula.  With baby #3, I had to use a home made formula to supplement my nursing.  That&#039;s 19 years ago, so I can&#039;t remember the recipe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My reason for choosing home made recipe vs. using store bought was for the concern of the high levels of aluminum found in formula, not because I felt like a failure or anything like that.  I don&#039;t know where those levels are, today, vs. 19 years ago.  You will have to do your research on formulas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous asked about home made formula.  With baby #3, I had to use a home made formula to supplement my nursing.  That&#8217;s 19 years ago, so I can&#8217;t remember the recipe.</p>
<p>My reason for choosing home made recipe vs. using store bought was for the concern of the high levels of aluminum found in formula, not because I felt like a failure or anything like that.  I don&#8217;t know where those levels are, today, vs. 19 years ago.  You will have to do your research on formulas.</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, Dale was not being a good father or husband, but, Laura, was this a baby Dale was hoping to conceive?&lt;br /&gt;I know this next part is going to get people mad, but I am trying to understand the whole picture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please help me understand.  Didn&#039;t you say that Dale wasn&#039;t even sleeping with you, but snuggling with you?  Did you also say you were hoping to get pregnant, for the sake of keeping the marriage together?  If I have those facts correct, would it not make sense that Dale would not be all that happy about things?  Perhaps he was not happy with the fact you conceived, again, when he was hoping to not have more children, could that be part of the picture?  Or do I have that wrong?  Was he hoping to conceive another baby?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was under the impression that by his &#039;cuddling vs. togetherness&#039; was perhaps a way to have birth control without having to call it that.  Since you stated you were hoping to conceive, and you were wanting the intimacy you were not receiving form your husband, that a baby would make things better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My questions to you are, was Dale wanting another baby?  Was he at all happy at the prospect of another child?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, trying to get clarity on the subject.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, Dale was not being a good father or husband, but, Laura, was this a baby Dale was hoping to conceive?<br />I know this next part is going to get people mad, but I am trying to understand the whole picture.</p>
<p>Please help me understand.  Didn&#8217;t you say that Dale wasn&#8217;t even sleeping with you, but snuggling with you?  Did you also say you were hoping to get pregnant, for the sake of keeping the marriage together?  If I have those facts correct, would it not make sense that Dale would not be all that happy about things?  Perhaps he was not happy with the fact you conceived, again, when he was hoping to not have more children, could that be part of the picture?  Or do I have that wrong?  Was he hoping to conceive another baby?  </p>
<p>I was under the impression that by his &#8216;cuddling vs. togetherness&#8217; was perhaps a way to have birth control without having to call it that.  Since you stated you were hoping to conceive, and you were wanting the intimacy you were not receiving form your husband, that a baby would make things better.</p>
<p>My questions to you are, was Dale wanting another baby?  Was he at all happy at the prospect of another child?  </p>
<p>Again, trying to get clarity on the subject.</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: mostcurious</title>
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		<dc:creator>mostcurious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just that, wow. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I never would have gotten through my single baby&#039;s babyhood without a lot of help from my husband - even when I said I didn&#039;t want it, even when we argued, he still helped. Without being a team... well I just... IDK, I&#039;d have fallen apart. And we have only one, as I said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kudos to you to figuring out how to get through it, and how to get out of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And many happy returns of the day, tax day baby Laura!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.</p>
<p>Just that, wow. </p>
<p>I never would have gotten through my single baby&#8217;s babyhood without a lot of help from my husband &#8211; even when I said I didn&#8217;t want it, even when we argued, he still helped. Without being a team&#8230; well I just&#8230; IDK, I&#8217;d have fallen apart. And we have only one, as I said.</p>
<p>Kudos to you to figuring out how to get through it, and how to get out of it.</p>
<p>And many happy returns of the day, tax day baby Laura!</p>
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		<title>By: jemand</title>
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		<dc:creator>jemand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becky, oh how I wish that were true!  Unfortunately I imagine Dale is still soundly sleeping through the night while his daughters do all the &quot;housework.&quot;  It&#039;s not HIS work, not REAL work, y&#039;know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becky, oh how I wish that were true!  Unfortunately I imagine Dale is still soundly sleeping through the night while his daughters do all the &#8220;housework.&#8221;  It&#8217;s not HIS work, not REAL work, y&#8217;know!</p>
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		<title>By: aimai</title>
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		<dc:creator>aimai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer in Tx&#039;s blog post is just so sweet. I think its been something I,personally, have needed to hear more from women with large families in the Christian tradition. I love, love, love my babies and if I could have had six probably I would have! I got started so late we only had two and I am satisfied with that. But babies are wonderful. However, there&#039;s nothing more godly about more babies. Loving and caring for all the people in our lives is just as important. Jennifer, it sounds like things are going wonderfully for you. Many blessings on this next child and, as you say, this next period in your life as you transition--doesn&#039;t it take about 18 years?--towards not being a mommy of little kids.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;aimai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer in Tx&#8217;s blog post is just so sweet. I think its been something I,personally, have needed to hear more from women with large families in the Christian tradition. I love, love, love my babies and if I could have had six probably I would have! I got started so late we only had two and I am satisfied with that. But babies are wonderful. However, there&#8217;s nothing more godly about more babies. Loving and caring for all the people in our lives is just as important. Jennifer, it sounds like things are going wonderfully for you. Many blessings on this next child and, as you say, this next period in your life as you transition&#8211;doesn&#8217;t it take about 18 years?&#8211;towards not being a mommy of little kids.  </p>
<p>aimai</p>
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		<title>By: Tapati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tapati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just shows how utterly clueless he was about your life during the day to say that you had time to take a nap! No wonder he didn&#039;t get why you needed a mixer! He gives new meaning to the phrase &quot;self-absorbed.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with those who said he was like another child in your family. Good riddance!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your daughters are so sweet to help out in the middle of the night like that. They were better parents than Dale will ever be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;{{{hugs}}}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just shows how utterly clueless he was about your life during the day to say that you had time to take a nap! No wonder he didn&#8217;t get why you needed a mixer! He gives new meaning to the phrase &#8220;self-absorbed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with those who said he was like another child in your family. Good riddance!</p>
<p>Your daughters are so sweet to help out in the middle of the night like that. They were better parents than Dale will ever be.</p>
<p>{{{hugs}}}</p>
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		<title>By: mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Bless your restraint!  My daughter had a rough time getting moving on nursing and was screaming her head off.  My husband had merely rolled over and begun to snore.  I thought about rolling him right off the bed for it, and he usually is an incredible Dad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m so sorry you had to deal with that.  Fathers are meant to care for their children and their spouses.  To ignore your health and your children&#039;s is just heartbreaking. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Bless your restraint!  My daughter had a rough time getting moving on nursing and was screaming her head off.  My husband had merely rolled over and begun to snore.  I thought about rolling him right off the bed for it, and he usually is an incredible Dad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry you had to deal with that.  Fathers are meant to care for their children and their spouses.  To ignore your health and your children&#8217;s is just heartbreaking. </p>
<p>Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How old are the kids now? Did Dale get remarried or is he caring for the kids alone?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess if he is caring for them alone, he is seeing how many naps he&#039;s getting! :) (wink, wink!) That was a pretty heartless comment he made.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was, as someone else mentioned acting like a child and not like the &quot;patriarch&quot; who was willing to lay down his life for his wife and children.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While obviously he couldn&#039;t pump, if you needed help, he could help. You didn&#039;t &quot;create&quot; these children by yourself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By this time in your marriage, was he still convinced that &quot;quiverfull&quot; was the right thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How old are the kids now? Did Dale get remarried or is he caring for the kids alone?</p>
<p>I guess if he is caring for them alone, he is seeing how many naps he&#8217;s getting! <img src='http://nolongerquivering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (wink, wink!) That was a pretty heartless comment he made.   </p>
<p>He was, as someone else mentioned acting like a child and not like the &#8220;patriarch&#8221; who was willing to lay down his life for his wife and children.  </p>
<p>While obviously he couldn&#8217;t pump, if you needed help, he could help. You didn&#8217;t &#8220;create&#8221; these children by yourself. </p>
<p>By this time in your marriage, was he still convinced that &#8220;quiverfull&#8221; was the right thing?</p>
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