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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2010/03/07/nlq-anniversary-post-by-laura/comment-page-1/#comment-20925</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, from the time I started reading your blog, I could not advert my eyes from the screen. You are a very, very strong woman. And, even though I do not know you, I feel as if you are a good friend to me now. Writing this blog, and  about your stories and the details you included are nothing less than courageous. 
Your story has touched and moved me in so many ways, I kind of wished that you would make a book including many more stories. That could be used as an example of how boyfriends/husbands can be controlling and abusive. 
I was always told not to let a man control me growing up, but no one bothered to mention some of the examples of what they do to control. If I would have read this about a year ago, I doubt that I would have gone through my horrible relationship. 
Any who, I am glad you are happy. And I hope you find much more happiness. You moved away from a very horrible relationship, you married the man of your dreams, if anything is possible, GIRL GO GET YOUR KIDS! 
Thank you for everything.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, from the time I started reading your blog, I could not advert my eyes from the screen. You are a very, very strong woman. And, even though I do not know you, I feel as if you are a good friend to me now. Writing this blog, and  about your stories and the details you included are nothing less than courageous.<br />
Your story has touched and moved me in so many ways, I kind of wished that you would make a book including many more stories. That could be used as an example of how boyfriends/husbands can be controlling and abusive.<br />
I was always told not to let a man control me growing up, but no one bothered to mention some of the examples of what they do to control. If I would have read this about a year ago, I doubt that I would have gone through my horrible relationship.<br />
Any who, I am glad you are happy. And I hope you find much more happiness. You moved away from a very horrible relationship, you married the man of your dreams, if anything is possible, GIRL GO GET YOUR KIDS!<br />
Thank you for everything.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Jimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, your story was so touching.  I hope you find more and more happiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, your story was so touching.  I hope you find more and more happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2010/03/07/nlq-anniversary-post-by-laura/comment-page-1/#comment-19905</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doesn&#039;t it make sense that she was missing a &quot;daddy&quot; in her life &amp; then she met &quot;assertive&quot; Dale who fit what was missing (whether she realized it or not)?  And how does being raised as &quot;nonreligious&quot; protect you from a cult?  What if your child needs spirituality &amp; has been denied it, therefore goes out to seek it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doesn&#8217;t it make sense that she was missing a &#8220;daddy&#8221; in her life &amp; then she met &#8220;assertive&#8221; Dale who fit what was missing (whether she realized it or not)?  And how does being raised as &#8220;nonreligious&#8221; protect you from a cult?  What if your child needs spirituality &amp; has been denied it, therefore goes out to seek it?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to hear that you&#039;re doing so well, and I&#039;m so sorry that you were abused and mistreated by someone who used Jesus as an excuse. This must be how Muslims feel when people talk about 911...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to hear that you&#8217;re doing so well, and I&#8217;m so sorry that you were abused and mistreated by someone who used Jesus as an excuse. This must be how Muslims feel when people talk about 911&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stayed up all night to read your story. It felt like something from little house on the prairie how you described your home. i could picture everything there with you and feel your despair. i knew that you would end up with Richard in the end, but cried when i actually read this last story. i am very happy you can experience true love in this lifetime. i am very happy for you, envious in fact. but you deserve it and i am happy that God has given you Richard and his sweet love for you. 

i try to go to church after mostly being absent for almost 20 years, but i still get a headache and stomach ache every time. those old abuse tapes are difficult to get over, even with counseling and education. be patient with yourself - you will find what works for you. i can finally talk to parts of my family about prayer and Jesus. for so many years, i just couldn&#039;t. 

but i still feel i know a very different Jesus than they do - the one who was with me since childhood and told me to get out of that crazy religious environment. my gut told me it was no good. i suffered in my body for years and years. but am finally putting things together after all this time. your story is very special, and healing, and thank you for writing it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stayed up all night to read your story. It felt like something from little house on the prairie how you described your home. i could picture everything there with you and feel your despair. i knew that you would end up with Richard in the end, but cried when i actually read this last story. i am very happy you can experience true love in this lifetime. i am very happy for you, envious in fact. but you deserve it and i am happy that God has given you Richard and his sweet love for you. </p>
<p>i try to go to church after mostly being absent for almost 20 years, but i still get a headache and stomach ache every time. those old abuse tapes are difficult to get over, even with counseling and education. be patient with yourself &#8211; you will find what works for you. i can finally talk to parts of my family about prayer and Jesus. for so many years, i just couldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>but i still feel i know a very different Jesus than they do &#8211; the one who was with me since childhood and told me to get out of that crazy religious environment. my gut told me it was no good. i suffered in my body for years and years. but am finally putting things together after all this time. your story is very special, and healing, and thank you for writing it!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 05:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful! Thank you for sharing your story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful! Thank you for sharing your story.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So so so so SO glad to hear things are going so well for you.  May it long continue!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So so so so SO glad to hear things are going so well for you.  May it long continue!!</p>
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		<title>By: km</title>
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		<dc:creator>km</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad you wrote something here, Laura!  I&#039;d loved your posts from the beginning and--like others--worried that your absence was the result of something terrible that had happened.  I&#039;m really glad to see that I was wrong--and also glad to see that your relationships with your children are going so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad you wrote something here, Laura!  I&#8217;d loved your posts from the beginning and&#8211;like others&#8211;worried that your absence was the result of something terrible that had happened.  I&#8217;m really glad to see that I was wrong&#8211;and also glad to see that your relationships with your children are going so well.</p>
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		<title>By: denelian</title>
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		<dc:creator>denelian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>relief! i&#039;ve been worried! but that&#039;s what i do; i worry :)

glad to hear happy is there! [and chortling over the delicious irony - i can&#039;t even feel bad for Dale]

you said you &quot;hunger&quot; for spirtuality... 
might i suggest you make your own? so, we&#039;re pagan [almost my entire family - the only exceptions are my mom, who converted to Christianity when i was 10, and my sister who decided to be Catholic with her husband]. raised pagan, i wasn&#039;t expecting anything useful from &quot;craft books&quot; - but i was WRONGWRONGWRONG. 
not that i am saying become wiccan, or any flavor of pagan - but the ideas [and ideals] in the Big Blue Book are pretty universal. also full of DIY stuffs [most of it is probably waaaaaaay too easy for you, but still] and it has a fairly decent biblio. but, really, the best aspect of the the BBB is that it shows you how to pick-and-choose what you want/need. 
my other sister&#039;s husband calls himself a &quot;Christian Druid&quot; [he was raised fairly fundy, though NOT as bad as anything you went thru. probably partially because he was male, but still] and he credits the BBB with showing him how to &quot;fuse&quot; his beliefs.

or, i am positive there is something for you - if this book doesn&#039;t help, i bet i can find you something [know anything about Zorastrianism? Tiamet aside, it&#039;s *really* nice, respectful of women, hard to warp into patrirarchy - not impossible, nothing is, but hard]
the book @ Amazon  http://www.amazon.com/Bucklands-Complete-Witchcraft-Llewellyns-Practical/dp/0875420508/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268111065&amp;sr=1-1

if you want to talk, my email is denelian at yahoo - or my LJ is denelian [so is my facebook, but i rarely use it.]

also: you are in the Northwest - EVERYTHING is in the northwest! you don&#039;t really need a random pagan in Ohio, when  you have everyone in your area! if you want spirituality without the BS but still in a known flavor, i *HIGHLY* recommend a Unitarian church [in fact, the only reason i&#039;m not attending right now is because my disability prohibits]. nice people, easy to talk too, *VERY* understanding.

&quot;God is Everywhere. Religion is like a pair of glasses we put on to see God&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>relief! i&#8217;ve been worried! but that&#8217;s what i do; i worry <img src='http://nolongerquivering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>glad to hear happy is there! [and chortling over the delicious irony - i can't even feel bad for Dale]</p>
<p>you said you &#8220;hunger&#8221; for spirtuality&#8230;<br />
might i suggest you make your own? so, we&#8217;re pagan [almost my entire family - the only exceptions are my mom, who converted to Christianity when i was 10, and my sister who decided to be Catholic with her husband]. raised pagan, i wasn&#8217;t expecting anything useful from &#8220;craft books&#8221; &#8211; but i was WRONGWRONGWRONG.<br />
not that i am saying become wiccan, or any flavor of pagan &#8211; but the ideas [and ideals] in the Big Blue Book are pretty universal. also full of DIY stuffs [most of it is probably waaaaaaay too easy for you, but still] and it has a fairly decent biblio. but, really, the best aspect of the the BBB is that it shows you how to pick-and-choose what you want/need.<br />
my other sister&#8217;s husband calls himself a &#8220;Christian Druid&#8221; [he was raised fairly fundy, though NOT as bad as anything you went thru. probably partially because he was male, but still] and he credits the BBB with showing him how to &#8220;fuse&#8221; his beliefs.</p>
<p>or, i am positive there is something for you &#8211; if this book doesn&#8217;t help, i bet i can find you something [know anything about Zorastrianism? Tiamet aside, it's *really* nice, respectful of women, hard to warp into patrirarchy - not impossible, nothing is, but hard]<br />
the book @ Amazon  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bucklands-Complete-Witchcraft-Llewellyns-Practical/dp/0875420508/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1268111065&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Bucklands-Complete-Witchcraft-Llewellyns-Practical/dp/0875420508/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1268111065&#038;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>if you want to talk, my email is denelian at yahoo &#8211; or my LJ is denelian [so is my facebook, but i rarely use it.]</p>
<p>also: you are in the Northwest &#8211; EVERYTHING is in the northwest! you don&#8217;t really need a random pagan in Ohio, when  you have everyone in your area! if you want spirituality without the BS but still in a known flavor, i *HIGHLY* recommend a Unitarian church [in fact, the only reason i'm not attending right now is because my disability prohibits]. nice people, easy to talk too, *VERY* understanding.</p>
<p>&#8220;God is Everywhere. Religion is like a pair of glasses we put on to see God&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MomofDaughters</title>
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		<dc:creator>MomofDaughters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,

As a mom, one thing that jumps out at me about your life story is how unusual it seems given your background.  You had two moms, a more-or-less liberal nonreligious upbringing, and STILL fell for the workings of the QF mindset.

Do you still have contact with both your moms?  Are they still together?

But my big question is this:  given your life experience, what would recommend as good tips for &quot;cult-proofing&quot; your children, particularly your girls.  It seems like being &quot;a headstrong and stubborn teenager&quot; was, in your case, not enough.  Please help me with this!  What are you doing with your own children to make sure they do not follow the same path?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,</p>
<p>As a mom, one thing that jumps out at me about your life story is how unusual it seems given your background.  You had two moms, a more-or-less liberal nonreligious upbringing, and STILL fell for the workings of the QF mindset.</p>
<p>Do you still have contact with both your moms?  Are they still together?</p>
<p>But my big question is this:  given your life experience, what would recommend as good tips for &#8220;cult-proofing&#8221; your children, particularly your girls.  It seems like being &#8220;a headstrong and stubborn teenager&#8221; was, in your case, not enough.  Please help me with this!  What are you doing with your own children to make sure they do not follow the same path?</p>
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