Comments on: Surgery for Tubal Pregnancy Deemed an Elective Abortion??? The Discussion of Vision Forum’s Fiat Raises More Questions http://nolongerquivering.com/2010/06/15/surgery-for-tubal-pregnancy-deemed-an-elective-abortion-the-discussion-of-vision-forum%e2%80%99s-fiat-raises-more-questions/ There Is No 'You' In Quivering ... Mon, 21 May 2012 13:56:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jennifer http://nolongerquivering.com/2010/06/15/surgery-for-tubal-pregnancy-deemed-an-elective-abortion-the-discussion-of-vision-forum%e2%80%99s-fiat-raises-more-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-8934 Jennifer Sun, 20 Mar 2011 07:58:14 +0000 http://nolongerquivering.com/?p=5880#comment-8934 When I was 3 months pregnant and the baby had no heartbeat, my body did not dispel anything. My insurance called it an elective abortion. Although reading that on the hospital documents made me want to vomit, it did not mean I chose to kill my baby. Is this just semantics? Was the mother not cared for physically or did she have to pay for the procedure? I didn't find a link to the original incident. When I was 3 months pregnant and the baby had no heartbeat, my body did not dispel anything. My insurance called it an elective abortion. Although reading that on the hospital documents made me want to vomit, it did not mean I chose to kill my baby. Is this just semantics? Was the mother not cared for physically or did she have to pay for the procedure? I didn’t find a link to the original incident.

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Tubal ectopic pregnancies are non-viable. They *cannot* go to term (or even more than a couple of months) without killing the mother.

Non-tubal ectopic pregnancies less common, but there have been only a couple of instances of successfully carrying to term.

I’m also Christian, and happy to say that my pastor was very supportive during my recovery from the surgery. We’re not all dangerous idiots!

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]]> By: Dechant http://nolongerquivering.com/2010/06/15/surgery-for-tubal-pregnancy-deemed-an-elective-abortion-the-discussion-of-vision-forum%e2%80%99s-fiat-raises-more-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2822 Dechant Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:09:41 +0000 http://nolongerquivering.com/?p=5880#comment-2822 Cynthia, thanks so much for this post. I'm not even a medical practitioner, and the question of tubal pregnancies' viability seemed pretty obvious to me -- tube ruptures, woman bleeds out. I hadn't, of course, considered the idea that a patriarch would use an ectopic pregnancy to kill his own wife via negligence; I guess I wasn't ready to think a human being capable of that in a supposedly Christian society. More fool me. "What will the liberals say?" It's about time. :-) Cynthia, thanks so much for this post. I’m not even a medical practitioner, and the question of tubal pregnancies’ viability seemed pretty obvious to me — tube ruptures, woman bleeds out. I hadn’t, of course, considered the idea that a patriarch would use an ectopic pregnancy to kill his own wife via negligence; I guess I wasn’t ready to think a human being capable of that in a supposedly Christian society. More fool me.

“What will the liberals say?”

It’s about time. :-)

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