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		<title>By: LHC</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-22864</link>
		<dc:creator>LHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the author and some of the Christian posters:

Look at the comments you receive from unbelievers and the content therein. Consider how non-Christians agree with your views and then go on to openly blaspheme the Scriptures. Just something to pause and reflect on - that&#039;s not the Biblical pattern. When Christ presented truth to people, they didn&#039;t agree with Him, rather they hated him and nailed him to a cross. 

Our negative life experiences are never alone the lens through which to interpret Scripture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the author and some of the Christian posters:</p>
<p>Look at the comments you receive from unbelievers and the content therein. Consider how non-Christians agree with your views and then go on to openly blaspheme the Scriptures. Just something to pause and reflect on &#8211; that&#8217;s not the Biblical pattern. When Christ presented truth to people, they didn&#8217;t agree with Him, rather they hated him and nailed him to a cross. </p>
<p>Our negative life experiences are never alone the lens through which to interpret Scripture.</p>
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		<title>By: EveryZig</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21898</link>
		<dc:creator>EveryZig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. The minds of the people who wrote that book are more alien and disturbing than most sci-fi horror monsters.

Also,
&quot;If you would be free, you must submit yourself a slave to Christ (Rom. 6:18)&quot;
That is shockingly similar to the classic &quot;FREEDOM IS SLAVERY&quot;. With bits like this floating around in the culture, 1984 must have practically written itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The minds of the people who wrote that book are more alien and disturbing than most sci-fi horror monsters.</p>
<p>Also,<br />
&#8220;If you would be free, you must submit yourself a slave to Christ (Rom. 6:18)&#8221;<br />
That is shockingly similar to the classic &#8220;FREEDOM IS SLAVERY&#8221;. With bits like this floating around in the culture, 1984 must have practically written itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21651</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Halocene Human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So &quot;Christian&quot;, this one.

(Of course, &quot;Christ&quot; casually talked about throwing people into Gehenna, the pit of fire, but it&#039;s just funny since Xtians are always lecturing everyone about how loving they are, and when one of their number expresses their usual aggression towards anyone who doesn&#039;t show the proper obeisance towards their delusions they pull out the &quot;true Christian&quot; card. No true Christian would ever tell someone to DIAF! (They would say &quot;I&#039;m praying for you,&quot; instead!))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8220;Christian&#8221;, this one.</p>
<p>(Of course, &#8220;Christ&#8221; casually talked about throwing people into Gehenna, the pit of fire, but it&#8217;s just funny since Xtians are always lecturing everyone about how loving they are, and when one of their number expresses their usual aggression towards anyone who doesn&#8217;t show the proper obeisance towards their delusions they pull out the &#8220;true Christian&#8221; card. No true Christian would ever tell someone to DIAF! (They would say &#8220;I&#8217;m praying for you,&#8221; instead!))</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21650</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Halocene Human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of cults think that everything is justified for those in the inner circle. It&#039;s part of the process of fission or separating from the world exterior to the cult, but taken to a pathological level.

Xtianity spends a lot of time inculcating the fear of committing the inadvertant sin. Thus, it&#039;s easy for Xtian-based cults to gain control over people by promising them freedom from sin (and hell) by joining the cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of cults think that everything is justified for those in the inner circle. It&#8217;s part of the process of fission or separating from the world exterior to the cult, but taken to a pathological level.</p>
<p>Xtianity spends a lot of time inculcating the fear of committing the inadvertant sin. Thus, it&#8217;s easy for Xtian-based cults to gain control over people by promising them freedom from sin (and hell) by joining the cult.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21649</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Halocene Human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attempted to use Biblical criticism to make the Bible more palatable as well. Eventually, though, that is a losing battle. 

People like Emily would be well-served not to look TOO deep into it, such as actually learning Greek or anything, or reading serious Biblical scholarship. That is because the authenticity of these texts is questionable. Bit by bit it all falls away.

The plain fact is that the Bible is a pastiche of traditions, legends, lies, laws, and fish tales that have been redacted like crazy by a priestly caste eager to retain power, then later added onto by syncretizing latecomers with some pretty weird views who voted on which texts best supported their vision. I was taught that the Bible was written by men, inspired by God, but if so it is through a glass, darkly.

Of course, I studied physics and philosophy and no longer believe in God, so no issues there...

Seriously, though, the Bible has an undeserved reputation. People don&#039;t read it cover to cover and don&#039;t compare it to other books. It really is not all that special, especially if you compare it to classical texts on how to live from multiple cultures (the Greeks and the Chinese are a good start).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attempted to use Biblical criticism to make the Bible more palatable as well. Eventually, though, that is a losing battle. </p>
<p>People like Emily would be well-served not to look TOO deep into it, such as actually learning Greek or anything, or reading serious Biblical scholarship. That is because the authenticity of these texts is questionable. Bit by bit it all falls away.</p>
<p>The plain fact is that the Bible is a pastiche of traditions, legends, lies, laws, and fish tales that have been redacted like crazy by a priestly caste eager to retain power, then later added onto by syncretizing latecomers with some pretty weird views who voted on which texts best supported their vision. I was taught that the Bible was written by men, inspired by God, but if so it is through a glass, darkly.</p>
<p>Of course, I studied physics and philosophy and no longer believe in God, so no issues there&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously, though, the Bible has an undeserved reputation. People don&#8217;t read it cover to cover and don&#8217;t compare it to other books. It really is not all that special, especially if you compare it to classical texts on how to live from multiple cultures (the Greeks and the Chinese are a good start).</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21648</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Halocene Human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is aggression. They are miserable (but can&#039;t admit it) and they go on the forum for affirmation. You were single and became the object of their envy and aggression, so they attempt to coerce you into a situation in which you will be beaten by a third party.

A beautiful illustration of the sick depravity that authoritarianism engenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is aggression. They are miserable (but can&#8217;t admit it) and they go on the forum for affirmation. You were single and became the object of their envy and aggression, so they attempt to coerce you into a situation in which you will be beaten by a third party.</p>
<p>A beautiful illustration of the sick depravity that authoritarianism engenders.</p>
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		<title>By: Me? Obey Him? &#124; chiefly (dot) org</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21567</link>
		<dc:creator>Me? Obey Him? &#124; chiefly (dot) org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Me? Obey Him?   This entry was posted in Religion by chief. Bookmark the permalink. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Do Christian Novels Romanticize Abuse? &#124; Jenny Rae Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21103</link>
		<dc:creator>Do Christian Novels Romanticize Abuse? &#124; Jenny Rae Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that God would strike the perpetrator&#8211;or them&#8211;dead. Considering the fact that there are non-fiction books insisting that Christian women should submit to their husbands no matter what, because if the dude [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that God would strike the perpetrator&#8211;or them&#8211;dead. Considering the fact that there are non-fiction books insisting that Christian women should submit to their husbands no matter what, because if the dude [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Carl</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-21102</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for the reviewing this ground-breaking work!  I cannot wait to receive my copy so I can pass it along to my wife!  Katherine, my loving and (usually) devoted wife, has been having obedience issues in regard to my orders and demands lately, and I&#039;m sure that this book (along with numerous severe, ritualistic beatings) will help to whip her back into shape.  I&#039;ve always thought that women didn&#039;t have nor deserve any basic human rights, and I&#039;m glad that some sort of proof exists for my theory.  God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the reviewing this ground-breaking work!  I cannot wait to receive my copy so I can pass it along to my wife!  Katherine, my loving and (usually) devoted wife, has been having obedience issues in regard to my orders and demands lately, and I&#8217;m sure that this book (along with numerous severe, ritualistic beatings) will help to whip her back into shape.  I&#8217;ve always thought that women didn&#8217;t have nor deserve any basic human rights, and I&#8217;m glad that some sort of proof exists for my theory.  God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: woman</title>
		<link>http://nolongerquivering.com/2011/10/23/me-obey-him/comment-page-1/#comment-20888</link>
		<dc:creator>woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... you too Vyckie Garrison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; you too Vyckie Garrison</p>
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